Hi All
Probally one for Frank here,
Currently researching a cover from 29th Stationary Hospital to Mudros West
Cancelled APO S 101 10th January 1918, APO S 101 was located at Arquata Italy, Oval cachet of said hospital dated 7th Jan 18
29th Stationary Hospital moved to Cremona Italy from Salonika 1st November 1916.
Cremona is located 131 kilometres North East of Arquata.
Would this have been the closest APO to this Hospital location?
Cheers
Chris
Chris
Getting confused by the 1st Nov 1916 date , No British Troops in Italy, other than the Military Mission in Rome. The British Adriatic Mission ceased around about April that year
Please confirm
Frank
Frank
Information was taken from "Firebrace" page 327
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29th Stationary Hospital
19th June 1916 Mobilised at Aldershot, sailed from Southampton on H S Essequibo
5th July 1916 Established at Karaissi in Salonika
1st November 1916, Hospital dismantled and transferred to Italy.
No further information, did it go straight to Cremona?
Chris
Chris
Afraid "Firebrace" is up the wall with this one
29th Stationary Hospital arrived in Italy on 22nd November 1917 from Salonika
It apparently was divided into three sections A, B & C. it went to Cremona
Section 'B was sent to Turin on 15th Apr 1918
No mention of the other two being at Arquata (APO S101) at any time
38th Stationary Hospital went direct to Arquata on 21st November 1917 from France I have a couple of items from there
A convalescent Depot was established at Arquata on 29th Nov 1917, I wonder if the sender was sent there from Cremona to recover that might explain the APO S101
APO L5 was set up in Cremona early in Feb 1918
Hope of some use
Frank
Thanks Frank
What is your reference for this information please?
The only other information in "Firebrace" covers 30th Stationary Hospital,
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30th Stationary Hospital
10th July 1916 Established at Karaissi
22nd November 1917 Hospital dismantled and transferred to Italy
15th April 1918 Returned to Salonika and broken up.
Scan of 29th cover attached.
With a delay of three days between cachet applied and date-stamp applied I'm happy cover originated from Cremona.
With the splitting of the hospital into three sections this may explain why the No 29 was added in manuscript on the cachet.
Chris
Chris
Nice to get a reply for info supplied (hopefully correct) last two replies not even a thanks, was getting to the stage is it worth bothering!!!
Anyway
My source for this was
History of the Great War (Based on Official Documents). MEDICAL SERVICES, Vol III which covers Italy
Frank
Thanks again Frank
Will complete write up based on your source,
Have you come across the Stationary Hospital cachet un-numbered before? (ie manuscript number added) I don't have sufficent material to form any conclusions.
Cheers
Chris
Chris
No, not seen this oval one before, my two strikes for the 38th at Arquata are boxed 38th / STATIONARY / HOSPITAL
Frank
Frank
Does the Official History mention 30th Stationary Hospital?
Cheers
Chris
Chris
Yes
Arrived in Italy 10th Dec 1917 to Cremona, returned to Salonika 5th Apr 1918
the only other Stationary Hospital listed is the 51st arrived from Malta 3rd Jan 1918, this too was split in 3 sections, 2 in Genoa the other in the Arquata base
Frank
Chris
Scan of the two items from 38th Stationary Hospital attached
Frank
Thanks Frank
Information for 30th ties up closely with "Firebrace" wonder what he based 29th on.
A nice page, would like to see your display on British Forces in Italy sometime.
I have a recollection that one of these Hospitals took their type 7 Censor Hand-stamp with them but can't remember which number or unit.
Any clues?
Will be adding this page to my display at Newcastle PS on the 16th September. One thing I like about collecting APO SX3 is the range of cachets found on mail from there.
Suspect we have Geoffrey Hill who was Orderley Room Sergeant with 3rd Battn R Marines at Mudros to thank for that, I suspect he was a collector.
Cheers
Chris
Frank
Completed page for the record.
Thanks again for all your help.
Cheers
Chris
Chris
Re the type CM7 used in Italy. I have in my censor records that a CM7 No 101 was cancelled at APO S100 (Taranto) on 30th November 1917. This is 11 days before the 30th arrived in Italy - very interesting - could it have been an advance party??
Frank
Hi Frank
Yes, sounds like an advance party or when they first landed in Italy, they would have travelled on the Overland route, Salonika to Bralo by train, accross the mountains to Itea and by sea to Taranto.
The only record I have of 7/101 is October 1917 at APO SX15 which seen a little odd as they wern't located here. Information ex FD.
Cheers
Chris
Hello Chris
I have just come into this one. I expect the Stat Hospital oval cachet with the number added in ms is normal for I have a very similar General Hospital oval cachet, used in Egypt of course, with '19' added. Firebrace NHC3.
Re Firebrace's wrong date for 29 SH moving to Italy, I expect it was simply a wrong year 1916 when it should be 1917. 1 Nov pack up in Salonika, 22 Nov open in Cremona seems a likely scenario.
I cannot tell you anything about CM7/101 as FWD's large worksheets do not have any type 7 pages, only types 2,3,4,5.
Best regards
Graham