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Messages - Gary Diffen

#1
Hi folks

I believe the Egyptians were censoring everything that was forwarded through their PO....but have no one to back up my theory.

I believe the Allies were still censoruing German and Austrian mail in to the early 1950's....

Cheers

Gary
#2

I have attached scans of a series of Australian covers posted after WW2 to European and Middle East countries which have censor labels attached. Insome of these that I own, there were periodic conflicts....so the censor labels make sense. However, with this group, I was wondering if there was continued censorship with some country's because of underlying conflict.


I will list the covers in order of the scans:


1. Australia 29.11.1949 to Sudan. Arabic censor at left. Arrival 31.12.1949.
2. Melbourne 24.6.1953 to Egypt. Arabic censor label at left.
3. New South Wales 2.6.1948 to Cyprus. Arabic censr label at left.


The above three covers were almost certainly processed through Egypt before onwards transmission. With the Arabic censor labels, was Egypt still censoring mail?


4. Sydney, NSW 18.5.1950 to Austria. Censor label and cachet at left.
5. NSW 2.1.1959 to Czechoslovakia with censor label and cachet at left.
6. Queensland 24.7.1958 to Israel with censor label at left and cachet on reverse.


Are my assumptions correct in that these country's had ongoing censorship after WW2?....and if so, what was the period of this censorship? What other country's had this type of censorship?


Any answers would be greatly appreciated.
#3
Hi Chris

Interesting information......and I would be very grateful if I could get a scans of these articles.

From the Australian involvement at Gallipoli, only 69 soldiers were taken prisoner, plus 16 from the submarine AE2.

All told, 217 (as near a figure as the Aust War Memorial can determine) were taken POW in WW1. This means that 132 prisoners were taken in the Light Horse Campaign from Egypt to Syria.

I was surprised at how few of the British were taken as POW's at Gallipoli. It appears that these numbers may include all Allied soldiers.....but I think we would need to look at the data before confirming....

Rather than use this as a forum.....you may wish to use my email address of garydiffen@gmail.com 

Cheers

Gary
#4
Hi Chris

Yes.....I'm based in Australia.

One of my collections is the Australians in WW1.....particularly Gallipoli. I have about 12 frames (maybe more) of the Australian campaign.....and will be showing it at the Royal of London in April next year together with my NZ collection, so it will be an ANZAC theme.

The NZ Cenotaph site is quite rudimentary compared with the Australian War Memorial and National Archives (which is a bit cumbersome as well). As for war diaries.....I have not seen them on the NZ site....

Did you buy anything in the Argyll Etkin sale yesterday?

Cheers

Gary
#5
Hi Chris

The New Zealand site is not bad.....I have a 5 frame Gallipoli exhibit.....and used Cenotaph to research the soldiers whom I was able to identify from the covers....NZ is much harder than the Australian material to acquire....

Cheers

Gary
#6
Hi Chris

I had a look around the Kew National Records site.....it's a complete mess.....and in the end you have to pay for a service record.....unlike the Australian sites.....

I only have one POW item addressed to an English Officer. From the address I was able to make out that he was from the 103rd Mahratta Light Infantry which was taken prisoner at Kut.

Further investigation of another 3 of my Indian cards confirmed that they were also taken at Kut (as were most of the Allied POW's held by the Turks).

My other 5 Indian cards will probably be difficult to track. My three French envelopes are signed by the POW....so I am hoping I will be able to track them somehow.....

Anyway.....thank you for your help.....at least I have a start.....

Cheers

Gary
#7
Hi folks

I have some covers from WW1 from English, French and Indian soldiers who were all taken as prisoners of war by the Turks.

I am trying to research the soldiers to see if the were taken prisoners of war at Gallipoli.

The Australian War Memorial and the National Archives have excellent web facilities to look up soldiers to help identifying their service records.

Are the same types of facilities available for WW1 soldiers from England, France and India?

Cheers

Gary