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Messages - Ian Muchall

#1
John,
I have a cover with the bilingual 'Prisoner of War/ Kriegsgefangen Post'  sent from Canada to a Canadian officer who was interned in Sweden. This was censored by the Germans as well. He was in Sweden for 6 months before arriving home in September 1944.


#2
Thanks Peter,

Initially I was interested in the M56 mark so didn't mention the reverse marks. I suppose with four censors to clear in Egypt it could take 5 days to get into the postal system.
Thanks again.
Ian
#3
Yes just outside Cairo.
#4
Alan,
Yes the main message and BAPO 4 pmk is on the reverse. See attached. There is also a faint EPP machine cancel dated same date as the BAPO 4 11 Jun 45 which is 6 days later than the date it was written. They seem to me most likely to be arrival marks. There are no other recordings of R12/30 known so far which would at least give a location.
#5
Certainly not ADEN, but does look like an Aden type pmk. There is an A at the beginning of the lettering but after that it looks like an O and B but unclear. There is more unclear lettering further round on the 1mil stamp that could be an M and H. Doesn't help a lot.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Ian
#6
Thanks Ross,
It was a censor not seen by me before or in any Reference book but as it was only used for such a short time must quite a scarce mark. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
The R12/20 is I believe a base censor and that ties in with the R27/10 and the civil mark?.
The postmark whilst unclear is not an EPP mark but the size and design is more like an IFPO mark used in Iraq. So annoying that it is so unclear. There are some faint letters at the top of the mark. On closer inspection on the reverse there is a very faint machine cancel EPP dated 10 Jun 45 same date as the BAPO 4. Perhaps arrival marks?
I think it will be another mystery remaining unsolved.
#7
I have recently obtained the attached postcard which was sent from No 133 Staging Post located just outside Cairo at RAF Almaza. It was written 5 Jun 45 and has a BAPO 4 postmark dated 11 Jun 44.13 mils postage and unclear civil? postmark. Two RAF Censors Type R12 20 and 30. Also RAF Censor R27/10 which is believed to be linked to the Base Censor (R12/20).
There is a circular mark 'M56' which I would like to know if it is transit mark or censor.
Further confusing the issue is the postmark as I have not seen one like it from Egypt, however he has stated he was heading down to Shaibah in Iraq and perhaps it was posted en-route?
Any help or suggestions will be most welcome.
#8
Thanks Neil, 
I thought it ought to be DHC which would tie in with another I have but under a magnifier it is not clear. I think it must be DHC and age and a poor mark accounts for the query.
Thanks again. Ian
#9
I have recently obtained the attached cover sent from a troopship, most probably mailed through India. The RAF censor is typical of mail from troopships under RAF control. However it has on the reverse an Indian civil postmark (date unclear) No 304. The Postage Free cachet is known on mail from India but the crown censor DMC/50 I cannot find any reference for. Any ideas?
#10
Guys,
I am not too surprised that a wrapper was produced locally in 2TAF as there were weekly papers issued by the RAF in Germany after the war. So it follows that someone came up with the idea of a wrapper. There won't be many examples still around. Ido have a copy of a newspaper issued by 2TAF in 1945.
Ian
#11
Members Discussion Forum / Re: service number
February 10, 2020, 02:33:26 PM
It certainly isn't an RAF service number.  The prefix implies to me RNAS or Royal Navy. The RAF numbers never had letters, only 6 or more numbers.
I am convinced the sender was RNAS.
#12

My belief is that the IAFF - 1083 (triangle) is a reference to the actual Air Letter form. I have other AMLCs from India with a Reference IAFF -1083 but no the Blue Triangle issue. All Military forms have a Reference No - Green Envelopes for example are AFW 3078. (Army Form War?). It seems that the universal Form No for AMLCs is (Form) 1083.
I would suggest that IAFF is India Armed Forces Form, but may of course be totally wrong.
You will also note on some 'Green Envelopes' at the bottom are the print details including date and number printed.
#13
Further to earlier posts, Pewsey was never an RAF base but a town close by. The postal system there was covered by the civilian post office at Pewsey before the RAF Post Office took over. An Upavon RAFPO s/r cancel was issued around 1943 so it is most likely that the RAF Postal service took over then.
#14
Mike,
Sadly like Nick I have nothing to add, although I do have two 1946 covers to Polish airmen in the UK, and the one I have just posted a query to.
Perhaps due to the German occupation of Poland mail was very restricted certainly to/from UK.
Ian
#15
Thanks Nick,
Interesting that he still had his RAF rank on the address. Also presume he didn't want to return to Poland under Russian rule? There were many Polish airmen that remained in the RAF and I came across several in my time in 60's.
Ian